In my last post I discussed Sura 5:21 of the Koran – where G*d orders the Jews into Israel. I was shocked that I had previously glazed over this quote. In re-examining Sura 5 in its entirety I ran across one of my favorite quotes. It is probably the most misrepresented quote by those who ascribe to the “Religion of Peace” angle. Alas, sometimes paraphrasing serves more than just efficient communication, sometimes one word can make a difference, in this case - ALL the difference, the difference between life and death.
As I have said before, I am not religious, nor does my support for the War on Terror have any roots in religion. On the contrary, I support the “War against Terror and Tyranny” from a chiefly secular humanistic mindset.
So you might be asking: “Why are you wasting your time reading the Koran then ?”
I have 2 main reasons:
- I want to understand the Islamists, the genesis of their hatred, their beliefs, and their goals. I like getting my information from as close to ‘the source’ as possible, so instead of relying on right or left slanted authors, instead of believing a specific passage exists I prefer to read it myself and draw my own conclusions.
- The 3 main “Holy Books” of monotheism are a treasure trove of history. Take away the miracles, and the stories of individuals from long ago – what is left is an accurate discussion of Middle Eastern history. Geography, Archeology, Anthropology and other disciplines have established that most major biblical events did take place. For example: there was war between the Jews and the Phillistines (David & Goliath); the Romans did conquer and subjecate the Jews of Israel (New Testament).
The passage I am about to share specifically has to do with Point #1: understanding Islamists. More approriately in this case – refuting the misrepresentations presented by overly sympathetic, appeasing, or outright dishonest individuals.
Sura 5:32 contains a delicious quote that the Islamists and their sympathizers love to misquote, misrepresent or otherwise twist (see above about going to the original source!). Those who love to perpetrate the “Religion of Peace” angle (btw: Salam means Peace, not Islam, Islam means Submission) often cite this passage as:
If a Muslim kills one man it is as if he kills the whole world.
Of course, that is a gross misquote. The actual quote is from 5:32
[5:32] Because of this, we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. And anyone who spares a life, it shall be as if he spared the lives of all the people. Our messengers went to them with clear proofs and revelations, but most of them, after all this, are still transgressing.
It is interesting that devout Muslims – who cannot even tolerate a cartoon of their prophet and consider those who dare question them as heretics – are absolutely comfortable with the perversion of the words of the G*d Almighty. A perversion you ask?
When is killing not murder?
On first glance, the simpler paraphrase involving “killing” may seem like a shorter form of the actual Sura 5:32 involving “murder” – but that is before you consider that “murder” is a relative construct. That is also before you consider the implicit allowance by omission of killing those who HAD committed “horrendous crimes”. You do not need to be a Sheik to understand this point, as any Western lawyer will tell you (after you’ve paid the $10K retainer): Killing is not always murder.
One needn’t be an Islamic scholar to understand that the Islamists see various actions as “horrendous crimes” (they tell us so daily)
Dirty non-Muslims in Saudi Arabia (even though they were called in by the Saudi government when they feared Saddam Hussein would attack them after Kuwait) are surely committing “horrendous crimes” by setting foot in the holy nation.
Israelis, by conducting maintenance on the Temple Mount or aiding the Waqf with Al-Aqsa are also committing “horrendous crimes”.
Jew praying at the Wailing Wall, near the Temple Mount & Dome of the Rock (Haram Al Sheik) are absolutely committing “horrendous crimes”
World Banks, by taking interest on loans (forbidden in Islam) are also committing “horrendous crimes”
Short shorts, topless beaches, premartial sex? Surely “horrendous crimes”
Heck, the Western World, by very virtue that it is not Dar-Al-Islam (the Abode of Islam) is at least committing a “crime”
That said, targetting and killing these parties is not considered murder by the Islamists. They are not murdering one man or many, and thus, they are not murdering the whole world. It is really that simple.
This (among other reasons) is why clerics in Gaza bless suicide bombers as they go out on their “glorious martyrdom operations”. It is why Islamists hide behind, endanger and target civilians. Killing a heretic is not murder, on the contrary it is just, good. It is not only good, but an OUTRIGHT COMMANDMENT, IT IS THE ABSOLUTE DUTY OF A QURAN FOLLOWING MUSLIM TO KILL UNDER VARIOUS CONDITIONS… The very next Sura, 5:33 is extremely clear on this!
[5:33] The just retribution for those who fight GOD and His messenger, and commit horrendous crimes, is to be killed, or crucified, or to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or to be banished from the land. This is to humiliate them in this life, then they suffer a far worse retribution in the Hereafter.
And it does not end there, it goes on (and on…and on…and on…):
SURA 9:5: …slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.
SURA 2:39: But they who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein.
(my note: Peoples of the Fire, aka burn them!)
SURA 2:191: And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
SURA 2:194: And one who attacketh you, attack him in like manner as he attacked you. Observe your duty to Allah, and know that Allah is with those who ward off (evil).
SURA 2:254: …The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers
SURA 4:89: They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them
SURA 4:91: If they keep not aloof from you nor offer you peace nor hold their hands, then take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant.
Most quotes taken from my notes during reading of Quran, some taken from others annotations.
I can fill up several pages with such quotes (enough people have already, Google Robert Spencers Blogging the Quran or view the Skeptics Annotated List of Quranic intolerance at http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/Quran/int/long.html). The point being – the oft quoted passage utilized in a means to pretend that it is impossible for a good Muslim to kill ANYONE is a weapon of misinformation. Hopefully, by reading this, you are now armed with an Arrow2 missle against this word bomb (at very least a Patriot v2.0).
I recommend the Quran to one and all. It is eye-opening. It is also absolutely required reading for our time. Islamism is a huge factor in the modern world and it will continue to be so for the coming decades. It is the largest and also the fastest growing religion on the planet. It is (albeit not politically correct to say so) also the religion involved in the vast majority of world conflicts (I’m only stating facts, draw your own conclusions). To understand the battlefield and players of Darfur, Chechnya, Phillipines (Abu Sayaf), Israel/Palestine, Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iraq you must get a grounding in the Koran for it sits at the crux of it all .
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40 responses so far ↓
Karlie // Jun 1, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Great article.
There needs to be more people with such articles, stating the facts about the ‘real’ Islamic beliefs.
You stated however that it is the largest religion. Christianity as a whole is still the largest-it has been misinterpreted that since Islam is bigger than Catholism than it is the biggest religion. Howver if you put the Christian denominations together, eg. Catholism, Luthern, Apostolic etc etc, Christianity is still by far the largest.
Wonderful to read the facts. Will be awaiting more on futher blogs.
1 Grounded // Jun 2, 2008 at 7:40 am
Thanx for the kudos…
Thank-you also for the correction on numbers, I stand corrected.
I did some digging about the religion-by-follower and found several conflicting numbers. The general concensus though is that Christianity, as a whole outnumbers Islam still (http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html).
I would wonder how accurate the numbers coming out of developing third-world Islamic nations are though with their huge birth rates, all-over-the-place mortality, and less-than-honest reporting (then again, that could work both ways, they may understate or overstate their populations…)
Regardless, because of their birth-rates & other means of recruitment I do believe Islam will be the biggest religion in the world very soon. Alas, that “demographic bomb” is something all nations need to address, for it threatens more than just Israel (i.e. look at France! Already there are places that are considered Dar-Al-Islam where the French police will not enter!)
Regards…
2 kevin // Jul 24, 2009 at 1:25 pm
You opened my eyes Wingless. It didn’t take me long to find more murderous verses like these (extracts from 13:6 to 13:10) :
“If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter…entice you secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods (beside Allah)…you should not consent to him, nor hearken unto him; neither your eye pity him, neither you conceal him…but you shall surely kill him; your hands shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people….And you shall stone him with stones, that he die; because he sought to thrust you away from Allah…”
And from the same sura (13:15 to 13:17) teaching how to fight wars: “You should smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, …gather all the spoil of it in the middle of its street, and burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for Allah your God, it shall be a heap forever; it shall not be built again.”
3 Ameera // Aug 21, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Kevin: I did not find the verses you mentioned in sura 13. Are you sure these verses you wrote are in Sura 13? What is the title of that sura? Thanks.
4 Aubrey // Aug 31, 2009 at 5:47 am
I too, have begun studying the Quran, for reason similar to those you have stated. I am puzzled by a conclusion that you seem to have drawn, however. While you have done an excellent job of pulling the kinds of quotes that people such as Bin Laden would use as justification for their actions, you seem to believe that Muslims who use the “Religion of Peace” angle are liars. Perhaps I have misunderstood what you’ve said, but if I have not, then I must point out that the versus you’ve sited are taken out of context. Versus surrounding those that you’ve sited speak of keeping peace with unbelievers who wish to have peace. If their actions show otherwise, only then is it justifiable to kill them.
Like the Bible, the Quran is open to gross misinterpretations. People will always use these books to justify what they know to be wrong, but that does not make the book wrong. We cannot stop individuals from doing such things, but according to both the Quran and the Bible, those who pervert it’s words may hide their intentions from man but cannot hide it from G-d. Hypocrites are no better than unbelievers.
5 kevin // Aug 31, 2009 at 6:20 am
Ameera: I am sorry I was looking at the “wrong” book. The verses I mentioned are actually taken from Deuteronomy (13:6 to 13:17) . Actually, some books in the old testament can be described as the bloodiest “holy books” known to man at the present time.
6 Hameed // Sep 6, 2009 at 6:45 pm
This article says:
“SURA 9:5: …slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush”.
Then why is it that my Quran says:
“SURA 9:5: They traded away GOD’s revelations for a cheap price. Consequently, they repulsed the people from His path. Miserable indeed is what they did!”.
This article also says:
“SURA 2:194: And one who attacketh you, attack him in like manner as he attacked you. Observe your duty to Allah, and know that Allah is with those who ward off (evil)”.
That’s weird, because my Quran says:
“During the Sacred Months, aggression may be met by an equivalent response. If they attack you, you may retaliate by inflicting an equitable retribution. You shall observe God and know that God is with the righteous”.
I see that you have took the liberty of taking just the section of this verse that seems negative.
“SURA 2:254: …The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers”.
My Quran says:
“SURA 2:254: O you who believe, you shall give to charity from the provisions we have given to you, before a day comes where there is no trade, no nepotism, and no intercession. The disbelievers are the unjust”.
Again, you change the wording into a more “negative” word.
Not only have you taken these verses out of context but have actually CHANGED their wording. In fact, this happens with almost every so called “bad quote” from the Quran. I have an Arabic/English Quran and can read Arabic, so I can assure you that is what they really say. It’s just mind boggling that you would hate Islam so much that you would take quotes out of context and even change their wording. Give us a break, PLEASE. Just accept the fact that Islam is here and a major religion. There is no reason to go on a virtual crusade against Islam. In the long run, all major religions have committed many heinous crimes.
7 kevin // Sep 13, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Hameed wrote: “There is no reason to go on a virtual crusade against Islam. In the long run, all major religions have committed many heinous crimes.”
religions do not commit crimes, people do, sometimes in the name of religin.
8 Noname // Sep 24, 2009 at 2:50 am
You must be from some denomination of Christianity. Is this what Christ left after himself? People fool of hatred? You pooped on everyone but yourself. People tend to use religion as a cover up, but we should not forget about the rest of the believers who love peace. You are probably one of those life poopers who was discriminated in some way. Muslims are not to blame for that.
9 kevin // Sep 25, 2009 at 1:12 am
Mr. Noname: Don’t analyse the person, analyse the message.
10 Masked_Man_Claus // Oct 1, 2009 at 2:32 am
@ Noname, so people have a distaste towards Islam because of you know… Nine Eleven, Mumbai attacks, among many others, so it’s our fault because of this? So how about you actually get angry at the people who do this in your name, not at the people angry at these crimes.
11 Noname // Oct 1, 2009 at 3:34 pm
We should not be discussing 9/11 because there is not proof of it being actually Muslims. And by the way i am not Muslim. I just hate generalized ideas that we, Americans, believe in because it simply explains everything at once.
12 Aname // Oct 5, 2009 at 7:43 pm
There is no proof that ‘Noname’ is telling the truth. His writings sound generalized and geared towards explaining things away. I personlly do not trust him/her.
13 Aname // Oct 5, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Hameed,
Do you really think that people are going to believe anything you say? Remember, people who have studied Islam know that Muslims are deceivers. Muslims dress wierd, act wierd, and think wierd. Muslims might as well be from another planet.
Save your Islamist propoganda. You are not going to deceive the infidels on this site.
PS. When you pass on into eternity, bring some extra heavy-duty burn cream. . . . .you’re going to need it.
14 Masked_Man_Claus // Oct 6, 2009 at 1:17 am
@ Noname, ah, I get it, inside job, eh?
I’ll admit there are some unanswered questions, but I’m not jumping to conclusions just yet.
I’m actually not an American, I’m from Canada.
15 download quran // Oct 6, 2009 at 9:19 am
Quran is peaceful book.
16 Noname // Oct 6, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Aname is being too antagonistic. We are all on a stage and God is probably laughing at us. We are just not meant to know Him, because of irrational and antagonistic people like you. Suppose, I am Muslim. I have lived among them for my whole life and you can find people life you among them as well. Let go off hatred, it helps noone.
17 kevin // Oct 7, 2009 at 12:20 pm
You opened my eyes Wingless. It didn’t take me long to find more murderous verses in the Old Testament (the orah?)
In Deuteronomy (13:6 to 13:10) :
“If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter…entice you secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods …you should not consent to him, nor hearken unto him; neither your eye pity him, neither you conceal him…but you shall surely kill him; your hands shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people….And you shall stone him with stones, that he die; because he sought to thrust you away from God…”
And from the same Deuteronomy (13:15 to 13:17) teaching how to fight wars: “You should smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, (and don’t give a damn about Geneva Convention)…gather all the spoil of it in the middle of its street, and burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, it shall be a heap forever; it shall not be built again.”
Actually, some books in the old testament can be described as the bloodiest “holy books” known to man.
18 Hameed // Oct 8, 2009 at 7:27 am
Dear Aname,
I’ve come a long way since I’ve written that letter. But I have to tell you something: Muslims are like everyone else, they like American things, they have idols etc. I’m not a Muslim now but I have contact with them everyday and I must say they’re some very civlised people who most certainly do think like your average American. The problem is the productivity of Muslim countries. They’re not really doing anything good for the world at the moment. Most are ruled by primitive absolute monarchy systems (the one I’m living in) and have Whhabi Islamist parties in power. Muslim people, on the other hand, are peace-loving people, for the most part.
19 Noname // Oct 12, 2009 at 8:32 pm
I would like to apologize to the author of this post for my initial reply.
20 Jerk // Oct 22, 2009 at 12:32 am
Funny. What strikes me about this undertaking of yours is, I’m sorry, a kind of an arrogance. Do you believe that our collective track record of tyranny and creulty can be parsed? Are we so far ahead, have we made progess? Can the crimes of the religious be so easily excised from secular malice? Or is secular humanism a vision of virtue? I daresay, ” Inspect yourself, man.” Who are you? Ask yourself. What is admirable about Islam is in what it reaches for : wholeness. It has a provision for the inclusion of a martial act in a spiritual life. And it acknowledges the base level of this provision. Islam calls for the collection of the fragmented human psyche and sees either a life that is all spiritual or not at all. Do you think Gandhi would have succeeded under Stalin or the Khmer Rouge? How? Nobody would have taken pictures or reported in the papers. It is the absolute duty of all people to kill under various conditions. It sucks, yeah.
” I would rather be whole than good.” -Carl Jung
21 latest news // Nov 8, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Killing any innocent is as you killed whole of mankind Quran.
22 grounded/wingless // Nov 15, 2009 at 11:56 am
Hameed, I can assure you that not one word has been changed. BTW: What PC translation of the Quran are you quoting? Do you realize you are quoting the wrong passages in some cases? Serioously, if you want to persue the argument at least sych your Suras…
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Nowhere in the Quran is that written… Furthermore, the issue is with the definition of ‘innocents’, even if the quote was true, the meaning shifts if 2/3 of the population don’t qualify!
Everyone else – my apologies for not posting a thing in a long while – alas, work, life (that other one, away from the screen…
) and all that…
As I look at the world under Obama I long for Bush… At least he kept America safe. Under Obama you have domestic terrorism (its back! and if anyone can argue that last weeks shooting was NOT caused by Political Correctness, please enlighten me – I mean – scared classmates, scared colleagues, scared superiors and even concerned investigators but nobody persues for fear of being labelled a ‘racist’!),
under Obama you have a military that has lost all momentum & motivation in Afghanistan – ISN’T HE THE GUY THAT SAID HE WOULD PRIORITZE AND *WIN THAT WAR*?! Last year they were making inroads, the nation had accepted the allies & saw the Tabliban and Al Qaeda as the enemy. IT HAD BECOME A CONFLICT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE THE SOVIETS FACED! There was NO NATIONAL UPRISING! Obama did well to push Pakistan to act, but now he retards US troops! Have we learned NOTHING from Tora Bora?!
Under Obama, Qaddafi is back to his old ways, Turkey has gone rogue (this is HUGE! maybe the biggest news all year, Syria is closer with Iran than ever! Everything the Iraq war achieved has been decimated in less than a year.)
This latest stunt of ‘not accepting anyones strategy’ was just more of the same. The naivete of the man is astonishing. He thinks if he looks humble, apologetic, slow, deliberate that people will forgive the US for its supposed ‘arrogance’… Arrogance? This is the nation that provides more aid to the world than any other, more goodwill, more positive inventions. It feeds the power, cures the sick and goes to bat for others. It is everything the UN was SUPPOSED TO BE but is not. It was the USA that went to bat for Muslim Kosovar Albanians, it was the USA who attempted to restore order to Somalia (while the ‘human rights watchers’ were singing coom-baya on posh university campuses).
When Obama gets it through his head that the USA has nothing to apologize for; When he realizes that in the currency of the MidEast his policy of grovelling is recieved as nothing more than an advertisment of Western weakness, he will hopefully rise to the ocassion. That said – this is not the best time for this green a President. Anyone who equates ’settlement building’, less than .01% of Jews on not-yet-Arab land, as the cornerstone of this conflict is really not the ideal candidate to rule in these times.
23 grounded/wingless // Nov 15, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Kevin, I never said the Old or New Testaments were squeeky clean. I don’t live my life according to any book, or any commandments, be they so-called, real, defacto, dejure…
The fact of the matter is that Christianity grew up a long, long time ago. And Judaism, well, it was never big enough to really pose a threat to anyone. Christians have missionairies and crusaders, the Muslims had several Jihads, including the Ottomans (I’d convert just to save on the Jizya and for the right to bear arms, not to mention those Surguns… life as a Dhimmi sucks!) – the Jews historically weren’t even receptive of converts.
Christianity welcomes unbelievers, it ’saves them’. Islam also brings ‘the unbeliever into the fold’ (although there are rampant divisions, Shiite/Sunni is well known, but another rift is Arab Muslims vs. ALL OTHERS – funny considering the vast majority of Muslims aren’t Arabs), Jews ask ‘why would you want to become a Jew’? Judaism is largely a blood-line – this is why it shrinks while Christianity & Islam grow. Today there are more Animalists in the world than Jews (Judaism not even in top 10 world religions).
Back to to the topic of ‘the books’ – Kevin, look at the world around you – do you not ask why it is that Islam is somehow involved in nearly every single conflict?
Terror in Tanzania, Kenya, Bali (& on island of Indonesia), Sudan, Yemen (civil war for years! now Houttis at war with Saudi military), Saudi Arabia, Phillipines
In Lebanon you have Hezbollah, the Iranian occupier, massacring Maronites & Jews. In Egypt, the Copts are regularly raided, persecuted and murdered. In Gaza, Christian libraries have been firebombed and Christians are under threat daily (much of the world totally ignores this tragedy) by Hamas ‘religious police’. So many Christians have left Bethlehem that National Geographic reported that the birthplace of Jesus will soon be Christian free.
In Darfur, Arab (and Arab financed & armed) Janjaweed rape & implement a systematic genocide against Black Muslims (a REAL GENOCIDE, where the population is being decimated, not like Gaza, where the population GROWTH RATE is among the highest in the world despite regular claims of a ‘Holocaust’). Those black Muslims lucky enough to escape through the arid landmass, must then hide from their fellow Muslims as they make their way through Arab lands. If Egypt catches black Darfuri refugees they kill them. Many of these Darfuri refugees have come to Israel to seek refuge. What a shame that in the land of the Muslims, the only refuge is the Jewish State (and what a shame that the only place a Muslim can vote, sit in free Parliament, rule over a free supreme court, is in Israel, as an Israeli Arab).
I can go on and on. In the various ‘Stans’ and in modern Kosovo, elements of this Pan-Islamic movement have established, bringing the same misery they’ve spread wherever they’ve settled. Rather than clinging to PC dogma, just ask why…
Is Islam the reason? I don’t know… Frankly – it’s the only lead we’ve got right now, and it’s a pretty strong one at that.
24 bollywood songs // Nov 15, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Islam is the most peaceful religion on face of earth according to my comparative religion study.
25 kevin // Nov 15, 2009 at 6:49 pm
We have to get those Islamofaschists out of this great country of ours. Their numebr is increasing and their voting power constitutes a threat to Israel’s security in the future. For the sake of political correctness the ‘leaders’ of the country are hesitant to take action. Write to your congressman to support an operation similar to that of Northwoods but directed against those Islamofascishists in this country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
26 grounded/wingless // Nov 16, 2009 at 11:42 am
Kevin, come on now… They don’t need a false flag op… They are doing fine giving ample justification on their own… False flag? Seriously? We’re talking about a trend going back centuries and Kevin talks of False flag operations… placing pillow firmly over head…loud deliberate sigh…sighhh
27 grounded/wingless // Nov 16, 2009 at 11:50 am
And please try to answer point by point… There is no greater waste of time than having to respond to what somebody said, only to have them quote another random fact… Let’s try to make this a discussion – if I wanted a smattering of random tidbits (proclaimed in a whiny shreik) I’d tune in to a Saed Erekat interview (nobody uses the word ‘bom-bar-d-ed’ quite the same)…
28 Asif Zardari // Nov 16, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Al Quran the book of Peace.
29 Wingless // Nov 18, 2009 at 1:00 am
Hey Asif, care to quantify the point? I’m happy to debate.
30 Islam Ali Mohammad // Nov 18, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Whoever kills any innocent human being its like he killed the whole of humanity [Al Quran]
31 Ayesha // Dec 5, 2009 at 11:55 pm
No offence kiddo…but alot of what you say isnt wrong but out of context
im glad u like to go as close to the source as possible but what’s the point if your not going to look at the context?
Please, if your really pasionate about this…do this properly…
email me back for any questions..im here to help
[aa22@hotmail.co.uk]
32 Samia // Apr 21, 2010 at 11:07 am
People of the fire means that they are people that will be going to hell. It does not at all mean burn them literally in this life. It is only up to God to punish people. The Prophet Mohammad taught people, not killed them. If you cannot get through to a person, at least you tried. And killing is only fine if the person is trying to kill you and putting your life at risk. The fact that the people of the fire are called ‘wrong-doers’ is because they do not believe in God, and they might be doing things not considered acceptable, such as idolatry.
I’m glad you’re trying to read the Quran. I am too. I also have to get my hands on the Torah. I already have a Bible in my possession that I read sometimes.
33 jennifer // Apr 30, 2010 at 8:57 am
why dont you get your facts straight and reaearch all the sects of islam. if you did, you would know that islam is not a terrorist religion at all, in fact it has a lot in common with chirstianity if anything and is closest to belief within all 3 monothestic religions. why dont you look up all the sects of islam before making any judgement and casting all sects of islam as terrorist. youre nothing but ignorant and uneducated for casting all these terrorists beliefs on every sect. look up the sect of wahabism and its man made beliefs on killing and how they kill other muslims who dont follow them. why dont u post that on ur website before you cast judgements.
34 jesus // May 12, 2010 at 2:13 am
aname you are actually the biggest idiot. never in my life have i ever seen such an ignorant statement. “muslims dress weird” etc. you just stereotyped and placed all muslims in the same category. thats like saying because some jews dress in black all jews do. tht sure isnt rite cz my best friiend is a jew. i am a muslim and i sure dont dress weird. no i do not wear a turban and a dress. ppl these days are sooo frustrating.
35 Etain // May 31, 2010 at 3:36 pm
With Gods Willing you will get to the truth. May God open your hearts. And soften your tongues and your fists.
36 Etain // May 31, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Some newspapers and other forms of media have spread hurtful, vicious information that could only emanate from the jealous, arrogant enemies of Islam and its Prophet (may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace).
That conduct comprises a calumniation of Muhammad, the Messenger of Allah and a distortion of his message by jealous individuals and Christian organizations, as well as envious and irresponsible columnists, like those who write for the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten.
Its writers mocked the best of Mankind and the most distinguished of the Messengers, Muhammad (may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace), the likes of whose nobility, honor, justice, and manners the earth has never known of. Neither has it known of a more complete and comprehensive message than his, nor a more just and merciful one.
It is a message that embraces belief in all of the prophets and messengers, honoring them and defending them from calumniation and defamation. It has also preserved an accurate history of the prophets, including Jesus and Moses. So whoever disbelieves in Muhammad and speaks of him in a derogatory manner has disbelieved in all of the prophets and disparaged all of them.
Recently, some uncivilized miscreants made fun of the Prophet, drawing various pictures of him. Twelve despicable pictures, one of them portrayed him (may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace) wearing a turban resembling a bomb on his head.
We say to these criminals and their envious supporters in Europe and America: You are blaming others for your very own crimes!
Let it be known that never did Muhammad (may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace), nor his righteous successors or any of his honorable companions, ever establish factories for even the most primitive of weapons, like swords and spears, let alone atomic bombs, long-range missiles, or any other weapon of mass destruction.
Never did Muhammad (may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace) build a single weapon factory. Rather, he was sent as a mercy for the entire creation, to guide all Mankind towards happiness in their worldly lives and in their hereafter, such that they fulfill their Creator’s right upon them, for it is He who created them to worship Him alone. Whoever rejects this is truly a criminal deserving punishment in this life and the next, by the Lord of all that exists, the Creator of this universe and its Master.
As for you O Westerners, claimants of civilization, you have constitutions and statutes that destroy upright moral character and permit all kinds of forbidden acts, the likes of fornication and homosexuality, as well as usury which destroys the economies of entire nations, and the eating of improperly slaughtered animals (dead meats) and pork, something that causes the loss of concern for women’s values, and thus a man does not feel protective of his wife, sister, or daughter, and thus she fornicates with or intimately befriends whomever she pleases. These are some of the means which lead to ruin, and they have been prohibited in all of the prophetic messages.
As for bombs and all other weapons of destruction, war planes, tanks, and long-range missiles, you are the ones who engineered and manufactured them with your satanic minds that only think about transgression, animosity, oppression, attacking, tyranny, conquering entire races of people and enslaving them, spilling their blood, and usurping their natural resources. You think only about annihilating those who oppose you and stand in the way of your greedy aspirations, your oppression and spreading of hatred. All this wrapped up in the name of civilization, human rights, freedom, and justice!
All intelligent people know this about you. For your dark history is overflowing with uncivil and terrorist acts, a history recorded against you by both your enemies and allies alike.
Anyone who does not know this should read about your history and your occupation of numerous nations, or at least read the history and some horrible results of your two World Wars. For example, the number of fatalities in the First World War in Europe reached “More than 10 million, and they were the elite of their nations’ youth. And more than twice this number had incurred serious injuries disabling them for the rest of their lives.” [Refer to: At-Taareekh al-Mu'aasir: Uruubbaa minath-Thawratil- Fransiyyah ilal-Harbil- 'Aalamiyyaith- Thaaniyah, p.505. (Lit: Recent History, Europe from the French Revolution to the Second World War)]
The number of soldiers killed in the Second World War reached: “17 million, along with another 18 million civilian fatalities – all of them killed within a period of only five and a half years. Experts have estimated that the military expenses alone reached $1.1 trillion, and that losses caused by the war reached the value of $2.1 trillion. Added to this are the number of entire cities destroyed, the amount of earth scorched, the agriculture that was flooded, and the factories and plantations that stopped production, not to mention the number of livestock that were destroyed or lost.” [(Al-Harb al-'Aalamiyyah ath-Thaaniyah by Ramadhaan Land, p.448-449) (Lit: The Second World War)]
The Hiroshima Bomb
Stated the author of the book, “al-Harb al-’Aalamiyyah ath-Thaaniyah” (p.446-447) (Lit: The Second World War), “And perhaps it is appropriate to speak about this first atomic bomb. Let us relay what was reported directly from one of the Japanese in his interview with Marcel Junod, a representative of the Red Cross, speaking about the reality of this most frightening explosion. He said: …And suddenly there appeared these intense, muddy pinkish lights, accompanied by an unnatural tremor. This was immediately followed by an asphyxiating wave of heat and violent winds that ravaged everything in their path.
Within only a few seconds, thousands of people who walked the roads or sat in the city’s main streets were burned alive. A great number were then killed by the intense heat that spread all over. Others were left lying on the ground screaming in pain with deadly burns all over their bodies. Anything that had been at the point of impact – walls, homes, factories, and other buildings – was completely and totally annihilated, with all traces of these things sent hurling into the sky in a ghastly whirlwind. Trams were plucked from their steel tracks and flung as if they had lost their weight and substance. Trains were lifted off the ground along with their tracks as if they were mere toys. Horses, dogs, and livestock were all befallen with what befell the people. Every living thing had lost its life in one painful turn of events too difficult to describe. Trees were engulfed in blazing fires, rice fields lost their color, and farms crackled and burned away like dry straw.
As for the surrounding areas that escaped instant death: Homes were crumbled and only piles of wooden boards remained amongst bricks and stone foundations. Everything was crushed as if they were cardboard houses in a zone of destruction 10 kilometers in diameter. Those who survived found themselves totally surrounded by raging fires. The few people who managed to get to any type of shelter in time died painful deaths from gamma radiation within 20 to 30 days. By nightfall on the day of the blast, the blaze slowed down and then died out, finding nothing left to fuel it. Hiroshima had passed away into nothingness. ”
These are some of the landmarks of your civilization that you sing and boast about, and become insolent towards Islam and its Prophet with. Yet you continue intensifying every form of oppression and corruption and you go on inventing more and more weapons of destruction, annihilation, and devastation, and this – by Allah – is the utmost limit of barbaric and animalistic behavior.
( Or do you think that most of them even listen or use their intellects? They are only like cattle, rather, even more astray than that. ) [Quran 25:44]
So crown yourselves with your own bombs, including the Hiroshima bomb and its likes, and crown your leaders with them. Consider all other weapons of mass destruction as your fangs and claws that you use to prey upon wild animals and all of Mankind.
( And those who oppress shall see what kind of outcome overturns them. ) [Quran 26:227]
37 michael smirh // Jun 27, 2010 at 5:03 pm
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD…..DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE LIES…..THE quaran says it is alright to kill when someone speaks against God.. THE BIBLE SAYS IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS….AKA THE LAWS OF GOD….THO SHALL NOT KILL…IT ALSO SAYS CHOOSE YE WHOM YOU WILL SERVE GOD OR MAN….GOD DOSENT TELL YOU TO KILL SOMEONE IF THEY SPEAK AGAINST HIM…FOR HE LOVE YOU NO MATTER WHAT….HE GIVES US ALL A CHOISE….AND IF U CONTINUE TO PRAY TO ALLAH. YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY
38 LengChye // Jul 6, 2010 at 9:25 am
nice article. permission to use url for my blog banner, please.
39 wingless // Jul 28, 2010 at 11:44 am
What context are you referring to, there is NO CONTEXT IN THE QURAN since its not in chronological order! This is ISL101!
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