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American Teen Killed By Released Guantanamo Detainees

February 5th, 2009 · 13 Comments

Susan Elbaneh, Victim of Released Guantanemo detainees

As Obama makes plans to close down the Guantanamo Bay prison one wonders if he’s paying any attention to what has become of its released alumni…
It seems Jihadists that are released – surprise, surprise – continue on the path of Jihad! Susan Elbaneh, a Lackawanna High School student, would still be alive today if these terrorists were in their rightful place, behind bars!  There is no safe place to release these terrorists as they will always find a target for their destructive rage. They will inevitably find a place of success or joy & seek to turn it into a wasteland of misery & despair.

Much of Mainstream Media seems to have made a decision NOT to broadcast this very important story.

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  • Devin Maxwell // Feb 6, 2009 at 4:25 am

    I am not normally one to criticize people for spelling or grammar errors on a blog but, if you want to have any credibility, you should be able to spell the name of the place that is the actual subject matter of your post. That is if you had any credibility in the first place.

  • 1 Wingless // Feb 6, 2009 at 5:43 am

    Thank-you – will correct…
    You might want to look up the definition of credibility though… Then again, maybe you would care to elaborate how a spelling mistake affects ones credibility on such a serious issue… You could also fill me in on why it is you find it important to mention spelling after reading about the brutal murder of an American Teen?

    Debate the issues (if you dare), not the poster!

  • 2 Wingless // Feb 6, 2009 at 5:50 am

    When I originally responded I thought I may have spelled Guantanamo wrong in a few places or maybe totally messed up the spelling… Do you realize you took minutes out of your life (minutes you will never get back again) in order to have me change ONE LETTER on ONE WORD (Guantanemo to Guantanamo).

    Wow – THANX AGAIN! Hopefully on your next visit we might debate the issues…

  • 3 das // Feb 6, 2009 at 11:54 am

    well they kept it in the family

  • 4 Devin Maxwell // Feb 6, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Ally:

    I didn’t even read your post…

    A rant about something you can’t spell rings a little hollow. Would you pay much attention to an article entitled “Jorge Bush: Greatest President Ever” or “Why I hate the Toronto Mapel Leaves”?

    Me neither.

  • 5 Devin Maxwell // Feb 6, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Ally:

    Okay, I have read your post now…

    There isn’t really much to respond to. Your conclusion appears to be that every person who has been detained in Cuba and subsequently released will murder a young girl. This seems to be the basis for keeping the Guantanamo Bay detention centre open. There is no basis for your assertion and fails to acknowledge the dozens of arguments in favour of closing the illegal prison. Also, either by design or by unintelligence, you ignore the middle ground options that exist between the status quo and releasing Guantanamo detainees into your neighbourhood without restriction.

    If I were inclined to respond in kind, I could write that Israel is a rogue state because its army killed 1100 civilians during its recent conflict in Palestine ;) I would be wrong…just like you are.

    That better?

  • 6 Wingless // Feb 6, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Oh please, Guantanemo to Guantanamo – it was an ‘e’ instead of an ‘a’ in one word, in one place… GET OVER YOURSELF!

    You concentrate on this rather than debating the issue because petty ad-hominems are all you are capable of.

    Another American teen lies dead and Devin Maxwell thinks the most important issue is one letter out of place in the word Guantanamo! WOW!

    Again – debate the issue, not the person…If you dare.

  • 7 Wingless // Feb 6, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    There isn’t really much to respond to. Your conclusion appears to be that every person who has been detained in Cuba and subsequently released will murder a young girl.
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    No, not my conclusion at all. But the people in there now should not be summarily released! Furthermore, “transferring” these people to corrupt states (that end of releasing them) would simply be endangering innocents worldwide.

    This seems to be the basis for keeping the Guantanamo Bay detention centre open.
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    Well no… But people who are terrorists should never be released. And I see no logical reason to move the prison. Guantanamo is a State of the Art facility. It’s location & security configuration make it ideal for it’s current task. It’s on-site medical facilities & surgical suite ensure prisoners stay secured while enjoying healthcare unheard of in their countries (and likely out of reach of some Americans! They are doing cancer screening for G*d sake!). IF IT AIN’T BROKE, WHY MOVE IT? Really now, who benefits by moving this base onto the American mainland?

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    There is no basis for your assertion and fails to acknowledge the dozens of arguments in favour of closing the illegal prison.
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    Dozens of arguments? There are dozens of arguments that the tooth fairy exists…
    Let’s be alittle more vague.

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    Also, either by design or by unintelligence, you ignore the middle ground options that exist between the status quo and releasing Guantanamo detainees into your neighbourhood without restriction.
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    unintelligence?! Never Mind ;-) …
    What is that middle ground? Releasing them to Yemen? Saudi Arabia? France?

    These are well connected men that have extensive experience staying under the radar. Are you suggesting we put them on parole?

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    If I were inclined to respond in kind, I could write that Israel is a rogue state because its army killed 1100 civilians during its recent conflict in Palestine I would be wrong…
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    It killed 1100 civilians? It is interesting how you, like every Arab apologist lumps gunmen with civilians.

    It is also interesting that you hold Israel responsible for the death of human shields.

    If one keeps human shields, and also threatens a state, does that state not have the RESPONSIBILITY to kill that man and protect its civilians?

    The state has already tried EVERYTHING, from offering these people everything they wanted (the 2000 offer) TO the total withdrawal of Gaza which has since become a defacto state. BUT THE ROCKETS KEPT COMING!

    If you really cared about the so-called “Palestinians” why aren’ tyou questioning the use of human shields? Why aren’t you questioning the lack of BOMB SHELTERS? Israel could also claim 1000 deaths, 5000 rockets in 3 years do alot of damage, but Israelis have been going to the shelter 3+ times a day!

    Gazans could and should have shelters but Hamas ensures they do not. Israel had shelters 50+ years ago, third world nations have them, EVEN GAZA HAS SOME but its doubtful the civilian populace is allowed to use them!

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    That better?
    —
    Alittle bit…

  • 8 Wingless // Feb 6, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Care to elaborate on what makes the prison ‘illegal’… And also while on that, may what makes the war in Iraq ‘illegal’…

  • 9 Devin Maxwell // Feb 7, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Ally:

    Middle ground might be providing them with a trial to see if they are actually guilty of the crimes they have been accused of…either in Cuba, or the United States, or Canada…

  • 10 Wingless // Feb 8, 2009 at 3:30 am

    Devon, I’ll start by thanking you for keeping this civil & debating the issue in this post… Too often the dialogue between opposing viewpoints becomes a banal orgy of personal attacks (the House of Commons) rather than an exchange of ideas & viewpoints…
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    Middle ground might be providing them with a trial to see if they are actually guilty of the crimes they have been accused of…either in Cuba, or the United States, or Canada…
    ————————-
    Before I share my views of trying these guys:
    Do you realize that trying these people would be contrary to established precedent (”the norm”)? That even POWs don’t get trials (& these guys aren’t even POWs!) but are instead released at the end of a war? As we both know, the organizations these guys belong to initiated and are still at war with the USA (the war ‘ain’t over)!

    Would you also advocate a trial for Gilad Shalit (Can’t think what he’d be tried of), and the thousands imprisoned without trial in Iran, Saudi Arabia & Syria? One thing I’ve never understood about the Left is your fixation on the United States, why do you lament over a small group of likely-guilty men PICKED UP ON A BATTLEFIELD when there are THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of ordinary citizens that have been EXECUTED OR “DISAPPEARED” FROM THEIR OWN HOMES! In other words: Fight for the mountain of largely forgotten innocents, before you advocate for an over-exposed molehill of terrorist combatants!

    On the matter of trials… I’m NOT opposed to trying these guys in principle BTW. I am DEFINITELY opposed to granting them some of the rights afforded to American citizens however (esp right to remain silent).

    Even Americans Citizens don’t ‘carry their rights with them’ when they go overseas! Furthermore I doubt even you would argue that crimes committed by enemy combatants in a foreign nation fall under the juristiction (or the capability) of any traditional State or Federal Court.

    THAT SAID, as this war will likely go on indefinitely and these enemy combatants will likely spend 20+ years in prison; AND because terror elements have a long record of purposefully blurring lines between combatant & civilian (raising chances of mistaken identity) then I would be in favour of a trial that simply establishes whether or not they were actually enemy combatants. I would definitely not be against a well defined, well planned, WELL SCRUTINIZED AND DEBATED military-type trial. The USA should not rush into this unchartered territory hastily – it should do so carefully, with the protection of its citizens being the number #1 priority.

    Finally, you mentioned ‘Cuba’, am I to assume we are also agreed that closing the base in Guantanamo is a needless exercise (i.e. what good would moving it to New York do ANYONE?)

  • 11 Antic // Mar 18, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    authot must begin a book, it’s wonder!

  • 12 Blogger // Mar 24, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Gracie!

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